Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. It's after this that Goku asked to not be brought back. Android 16 is the only member of the Cell Saga's android trio who has yet to return. A/N: This story is a what if situation had Goku not decided to remain dead after his defeat with Cell. He never even got a chance to wish back king Kari let alone Raditz, and by the time super comes along there is no point in bringing him back. Why did Goku never revive........... GOKU? Part One "Your wish has been granted. Goku later sacrifices his life at the end of the Cell Games, opting to stay dead for seven years before having his life restored by the Rou Kaioshin during the events of the Majin Buu arc. He probably just forgot about him to be honest. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. I think It’s worth a shorter what-if. ... (but Goku) revived and Vegeta giving up fighting. Then Goku tells Shenron that they dont need a second wish. Still, if I understand everything correctly, why wasn't Goku brought back to life like the people of Namek, Chauzu, Tien and Yamcha were(he had to make his way back from snakeway unlike them)? A lot of interesting events happen during that one day pass lol. After Shenron revived Goku, he must have given his memory back and I think Shenron made him immortal and given him a god soul because of his good deeds. Overview. And why weren't Tien and Yamcha revived into their original bodies since they didn't disintegrate like Chauzu's did when they fought the Saiyans? But Chiaotzu was wished back twice. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. In giving Cell a Senzu bean, Goku saved Gohan’s life. I doubt Goku really values blood relationships over actual relationships, Goku spared Raditz multiple times during the fight, I'm pretty sure if Goku had the chance to beat Raditz without killing him he would've done it. That and generally speaking he had his hands full. They could have easily wished Goku back. When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's … Healing Old Wounds. Asked by Dende to Porunga on planet New Namek: 1.) Naturally considering how arrogant Cell is he'll believe that if Goku, Vegeta and Freeza can acheive that level of power than so can he. Also potentially if the wording used was "all people killed by cell" then king Kai wouldn't have come back because he is a Kai. Nobody is gonna go out of their way to bring someone back to life who causes you to die in the first place. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. Well apart from just disliking him as a person since he was a cowardly evil dick, there wasn’t any need or reason to. The set of Dragon Balls that Dende had created were constricted by the same general limitations of the original set, as Dende essentially just upgraded Shenlon rather than create a new dragon. 2. Raditz could've come around. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. Which he clearly was given his presence on Earth in the Buu arc. They had the Namekian Dragon Balls at their disposal, after all. After defeating Cell, they revived all his victims using Shenron. Cookies help us deliver our Services. He's the "perfect" choice. goku chose to stay dead because he thought he was attracting a lot of bad guys to earth and that its his fault (thats a really dumb reason, and it didn't even work because majin buu was happening.) Freeza's Cells. Same with Krillin. All of Goku's training, his time and preparation, the goal to push himself to his limits that had well… literally killed him … Why didn't Goku just communicate this s*** to Bulma or Trunks? he did try and kidnap his son and to kill Raditz he had to die. He wanted to stay in the afterlife and fight strong guys. He and Goku did not want to be revived Meshack 02:32, June 12, 2015 (UTC) can't king kai come back to life and stay in the other world ( Spice boys ( talk ) 09:13, June 12, 2015 (UTC) After Goku declined to be revived by the Dragon Balls, King Kai declined as well so he could help guide Goku around in Other World. well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. The funny thing is that Goku got resurrected, obviously, while King Kai still has a Halo because no one resurrected him. To be fair, King Piccolo was reincarnated as Piccolo Junior and Frieza ultimately got revived in the end thanks in part to Goku. In-universe, Goku dies on November 28 and is revived on November 3 of the next year in order to fight Nappa and Vegeta. Some might consider that 17 survived as part of Cell. With training for the Saiyans, fighting them and barely surviving, then recovering, going to Namek, the Cyborgs and training for them, Cell, then dying again and Buu. They do have potential to become good guys since Vegeta was even more ruthless than the both of them. In canon, Future Goku was dead. Goku hates him because he kidnapped his son when he was like four years old. A slaughter would occur as Majin Boo murdered everyone including Perfect Cell on his first try unlike when Perfect Cell detonated and they thought he died. Atleast not Cooler and Broly! Answer - because in canon Future Goku didn't give a damn. Really? After a grueling battle, Gohan finally killed the villain. 1 17 did get wished back by krillin. It just wasn't an option given the circumstances. Could have been a good uncle to Gohan, instead of having him be raised by that filthy perfectly decent Namekian. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. Dragon Ball Super gave us some really strong villains that pushed Goku and Vegeta farther than they've been pushed before. Every Dragon Ball fan knows that Akira Toriyama actually considered making Gohan the main character of Dragon Ball Z.. After the Cell Saga, the opening was there; Goku had been killed, leaving Gohan to defend the planet in his place. The only reason for him not to be is if they retcon it that king Kai has already died once in the past. Not like prance around fighting in tournaments dead, but like dead dead. Following Cell's demise, the Dragon Balls were used to wish back everyone that Cell had killed, including Future Trunks, Android 17, and more. If Vegeta killed Cell in his semi-perfect, Goku never would have died, Gohan would have kept training throughout the seven-year gap between the Cell and Buu sagas, and Trunks never would have had to die. Raditz was weak and a bad fighter and an asshole. He then dies for 7 years and when he finally comes back and saves the world the show ended. And in the ending of Dragon Ball GT, Goku meets Goku junior and disappears. Goku couldn't use his Ultra Instinct form in Dragon Ball Super: Broly, highlighting a wider issue with the franchise's power scaling. He was just trying to draw out all of his techniques so everyone watching could understand the opponent that was otherwise so mysterious. Reviving the guy that he brought with him to the grave might not be in his interest. When Goku was fighting Cell, he wasn't trying to win the fight. Here is why- Broly: The great Ancient Super Saiyan believed to be the strongest Saiyans has no existence in the Dragon Ball timeline. If he has a soul and is considered a victim, I'd say, yeah, he was brought back. Kinda like Vegeta and Freeza, Goku doesn’t give everyone a second chase, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Other exempt cases would be the people in South City Androids 19 and 20 killed, in addition to the innocent bystanders Vegeta recklessly killed during his fight with 18, they never got wished back. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Why? The Red Ribbon came back in the form of 17 and 18. Banned. Nov 3, 2019 #68 Originally you were only allowed to be revived once and he had been revived before. So, no Super Cell God or Super Cell Blue. Why? Now that I think about it, wouldn't the bad guys just fuck with Goku's friends out of spite if they couldn't find Goku? Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. Well I think its base on the fact that yes Goku will avoid killing people if he can but I don't think there is an instance where he goes out of his way to revive an evil person who died, except for one instance in super where he and universe had something to gain from it. When the entire population of earth were kill and send to otherworld, they didn't stay in otherworld when revived they got teleported to earth. When you think about it, she's certainly right, ain't she? I mean, so was Vegeta, at first. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. So, it got me thinking. But come home to his family and lead a normal life. A brand new Cell has arrived in Dragon Ball Legends, and this one is closer to perfection than ever. It’s not like Raditz would suddenly help or be useful against Vegeta and Nappa or Freeza, etc. During the Majin Buu saga (which proceeds the Cell saga), the Elder Kai gives Goku his life so that he may help in the efforts against Majin Buu. Because he has the greatest potential afterall. As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. He never got a second to just sit back and chill once Raditz showed up. Hours ago, Gohan finished Cell off for good but the victory of Cell's demise came with a price for Gohan's father, Goku died fighting Cell by giving up his life. 2. Because by the time they had the chance to freely use the dragon balls Raditz would have reincarnated, Because raditz was a villain and the “real” goku isn’t this mercy giving guy and rather just wants a selfish good fight, Because he was a bad guy and goku didn't like him. Sure, Goku wouldn't have learned Super Saiyan 3 or fusion but there's also a good chance Buu never would have revived. This wasn’t the first time Dragon Ball dabbled with death in a serious manner– that distinction belongs to Bora in the Red Ribbon Army arc– but this is the first time Toriyama kills off a … As such, Dende's set cannot revive anyone that the old set already had, as Shenlon cannot revive someone that's already been revived once before. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. Why not raditz? When Piccolo and the others realized that Dende's set couldn't revive Goku, once the wish was made to revive all those killed by Cell, they were about to start discussing what other options they had to revive him, when Goku interjected from the afterlife and established that he didn't want to be wished back. Everyone else hates him for pretty much the same reasons. Then, Goku contacted them using King Kai's telepathy and asked them not to revive him. Goku did revive Freeza. 625,000 miles long and it takes Goku 177 days (including falling off and restarting) to reach the end. Both raditz and nappa or no longer threats to someone as weak as Tien?? It makes no sense why Goku didn't get teleported to earth when he got revived, but the humans did. While he may seem mediocre at first glance, this Cell hides a deadly secret; an incredibly powerful transformation that is guaranteed to trigger when he falls to 0% health in his Perfect Form, essentially giving the ultimate android 2 Health Bars. He wasn't even trying to tire out Cell to make the fight easier for Gohan. From major villains like Golden Frieza and Fused Zamasu to more minor villains like Copy Vegeta, Super gave us some amazing antagonists. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. The man called Goku has returned to Earth," Porunga's voice boomed over the small group of humans and Namekians who gathered to see the dragon. Now Gohan wanted to revive his father. This resulted in Kibito being brought back to life along with the victims of the World Martial Arts Tournament. Because I broke my dragon radar and can't find the balls now. If he got revived, they should have him train in the room of spirit and time for the remaining 8 hours, (which equals MONTHS) and have him reach SSJ Blue level! In a fit of rage, Goku flies off to foolishly avenge his friend, nearly losing his life in the process. Listen to me, would you? Freeza's Cells. Perfect Cell was a much cooler and better villain overall. Why? Of course the show is interesting even without Goku. (Vegeta did not comeback this time because he had already been revived by shenron in the Frieza Saga.) What if Goku was revived after dying from Cell and Trunks asked him to come to the future with him. And besides that he knew the guy for like a day and had no relationship or anything with him. But only mention that because I don't remember the wording. Oct 18, 2019 654. I'm pretty sure she means when Shenron revived Cell's victims. (this was not the case) and that's how 17 returned and indeed he wasn't seen again untill GT. Vegeta hates him for the same reason that he hates Nappa: he's a low level brute and not exactly a proud warrior, though at the time the reason was that he was weak. Snake Way. well after discovering there was one wish left because of goku not wanting to return Krillin wished back 17 for 18 because he thought 17 was her boyfriend. He can't. ... neither of which would have been an option if Goku went back to the afterlife. Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. Dabura isn't much of a fighter, he's always trying to turn people to stone with his spit. But Shenron could not revive Goku, as he already revived once. Chiaotzu body didn't exist on earth, since he blew up. Cell will furiously train against the Cell Jr's, eventually after four months of hard work he emerges with a power only slightly greater than Golden Freeza himself. A Reflection Of Sorts. Why Trunks got hit, its fairly obvious, because the plot needed it. Angered by what Cell had done, Gohan became more powerful than ever. Dragon Ball Super: Broly follows on from the Dragon Ball Super anime series, the final arc of which saw Goku unearth a devastating new transformation - by far his most powerful form yet. Next he has to spent a year traveling back to earth and when he arrives finds out he has to train for 3 years or androids will kill everyone. Raditz pretty much left a bad impression on everyone. Prior to Cell's defeat, Android 18 was released from his body, and Android 17 - who was resurrected with the Dragon Balls - became a main character in Dragon Ball Super. Cell didn't fight fair with the self destruct ability butcame back in the form of the Cell Jrs anyway. 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